Mag. All rights reserved. Out beyond that, you are in .300 magnum territory and perhaps .30-06. Mag. Finally in 1963 Winchester came out with their 300 version. My hunting buddy has a Wby MKV in 7MM Mag and wants to get a .300 Win Mag for elk. Joined Jul 16, 2007 Messages 1,083. The 7mm-08 is better than, the .308 but, I'd stay with the .270 Win,..personally. Now, more than 40 years since their last time in the woods together, the author reconnects with the man who first took him hunting, Jeff Cooper envisioned a short, lightweight, powerful rifle, capable of handling just about anything asked of it. If you don’t shoot a big enough gun to dislocate your shoulder and fracture your skull when you get scoped it’s not gonna kill an elk. Field & Stream may receive financial compensation for products purchased through this site. Mag. Now having said that, the only elk I ever shot was a decent bull at around 100 yards. Cartridges on our master list that are among the top sellers in North America include: 6.5 Creedmoor, .270 Win., 7mm Rem. Studie - Endtecken Sie die Geschosswirkung und Zielwirkung der Waffen Kaliber 308 win, 308 winchester, 7mm rem. I would like to use this rifle for large game (elk, moose, maybe bear) This cartridges was based off the same brass as the previous 3 but had the shoulder moved farther forward to allow shooters to … A 300 Win Mag firing a 210 Berger VLD hunting bullet at 2900 fps will have enough energy to kill a deer at past 1200 yards and an elk at just past 900 yards. Had to shoot him one more time at point blank range to put the lights out. Anyone have experience with 180 or 200 grain Accubonds? Mag. You want a rifle and cartridge that can be counted on to make that shot of a lifetime on a big elk or trophy kudu. But on one occasion, I pumped 3 rounds into the kill zone of a bull elk at 400 yards with a 300 Win Mag using 180gr Accubond at 3230 fps. Mag. A 300 Win Mag will do very well for almost all applications. My Tikka 300 win mag loves 165ttsx and I'm 4/4 on elk with it from 220-430 yds. Find a tough cartridge for one of the most prized and toughest hooved big game animals around. can use bullets of 120 grains, but things usually top out at 175 or 185 grains. Between the .280 AI and .300 Win Mag, I'd go with the .300 Win Mag loaded with the heaviest bullet/highest BC that your rifle shoots accurately. All shooters are different, but for most, the recoil of the .308 Win is manageable even by new shooters or youngsters. Shot placement is key, but remember even the best shots hit shoulder sometimes. We all have tastes and preferences for things we like. Stay within the capability of the chosen bullets. I use a 300 win mag while a buddy uses a 30.06. are great chamberings for a hunting rifle. A Bonnier Corporation Company. The .300 Winchester appeared a year after Remington’s 7mm. Light snow won't move elk, and they forage ably ... .300 and .338 Winchester Magnums. The 7mm-08 is a bit closer to the 308 and doesn't really come close to the ballistics of the 7mm mag. Obviously, these numbers only take into consideration the energy required and don’t consider whether the shooter is skilled enough or should be shooting those distances. Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 12:11 am . Plus, given the primary importance of bullet placement, and assuming the shooters ability to achieve that, both the 30-06 and .308 are also adequate elk calibers 99% of the time. If I really, really, really focus, I can shoot the 300 about as well as the 270, under ideal conditions. The .300 Winchester Magnum, or .300 Win Mag, is used around the world for moose, elk, bear, and African plains game. By Joseph von Benedikt. In these 3 calibres I'd use 140 grain bullets in the 7MM-08, 165's in the 308, and 180's in the 300 Win Mag, and ( especially..) all with partition bullets from the Nosler brand. has an obvious weight advantage, topping out at 240 grains. That speed brings a nice, flat trajectory that makes it a bit easier to hit at long distance. by: Skip Shephard After conferring with my outfitter, he suggested the Win. The.308 Win is perfectly capable of taking moose. Temps now in the upper 30’s and dropping, rain has mostly let up and most of... That Bubba, is one piece of important writing and should make even a D take into consideration it it’s importance ! Mag., .308 Win., .30-06, .303 British and .300 Win. Top . Mag. The goal of this article is to help you determine which .300 Win Mag Rifle is best for you. I decided to take his advice and try' Berger bullets. Unless one is accompanied by a good number of friends, or shooting in very … I've hunted and killed many elk with a .270 Win. retains at 500 yards. The difference that matters to elk hunters — as well as moose and bear hunters — is the 300 foot-pounds more energy the 338 Win. I personally don't consider extreme long range fair to the game. I have a .300 Win Mag and it's an excellent elk rifle, up to and including long range shots pushing the limits of most hunters' ability. Ever wonder what it’s like to shoot the biggest buck of all time? Hunters are human. I've taken much game with the 308, and my Weatherby 300 Alaskan too, but that 7MM-08 is a sweet package as well, plus light on recoil. The rifle you love is the rifle you’ll carry. JD338 Post subject: Re: 308 Win 165 or 180 grain loads for elk. A 300 Win Mag firing a 210 Berger VLD hunting bullet at 2900 fps will have enough energy to kill a deer at past 1200 yards and an elk at just past 900 yards. Compare that to the ‘06s muzzle velocity of 2750 fps, which yields just over 3,000 ft.-lbs. Posts: 171. Best .300 Win Mag Rifles Comparison 2020. Mag. This page was generated at 08:29 PM. THIS ^^^^ GOOD advice ! The 10 Best Long-Range Hunting Cartridges, These rounds have the reach and the power to put down big-game animals way out there, Kansas Teenager Tags World-Record Whitetail Buck, Paslie Werth’s incredible non-typical buck officially measures 271-4/8, making it the highest-scoring whitetail ever taken by a female hunter, How to Pick the Best All-Purpose Deer Rifle, A beginner’s guide to choosing a reliable, do-it-all deer rifle that will last you a lifetime, A tragic accident led to their unlikely friendship. The short list. The 300 Win Mag is perfect for hunting big elk. I already have a 270 but i am looking for something more powerful yet still small enough to not destroy a deer. 300 Win Mag.300 winchester mag cartridges were first produced in 1963. With your distance of 400y our Sledge Hammer line would be great. I personally don't consider extreme long range fair to the game. All kill shots, but that sucker just wouldn't die. 300 Win Mag vs 30-06 Cartridge. If I already had a 30-06, I'd shoot that. The.300 Win. is a descendant of the mighty .375 H&H and has seen widespread use in every sphere from military applications to big-game hunting. The author killed this last-day Colorado elk at 250 yards with a Ruger rifle in .300 Win. 308 vs 300 win mag. retains at 500 yards. All I hear are good reviews but I guess I am a little Leary or a 6lb 300 mag. Hey guys so I have decided on either the sako a7 or browning hells canyon in 308 or 300 win mag for my Idaho combo hunt. The difference that matters to elk hunters — as well as moose and bear hunters — is the 300 foot-pounds more energy the 338 Win. Energy for the 300 Win Mag and the 308 Winchester . And don't forget to check out the latest reviews on guns and outdoor gear on fieldandstream.com. We designed our 166g Hammer Hunter with the 308 in mind. The comparison between a .300 Win Mag vs .30-06 cartridge involves considering the following factors – 1. Nosler Partition, I also used a .300 … D. Joined: Apr 2018. Many products featured on this site were editorially chosen. All statements stated concerning... Answers.fieldandstream.com is part of the Field & Stream Network, a division of Bonnier Corporation. Working up a load for my 300 win mag. Same with the .308. The .308 is a superb whitetail round, but don’t believe it’s too puny for elk, pronghorns, black bears or plains game. 400yds and less, I would think all calibers you listed would do just fine (assuming proper shot placement). Whenever hunters gather around a campfire to discuss big-game cartridges, you’ll hear talk about the .270 Winchester versus the .30-06, some chatter about the 7mm Rem Mag, .300 Win Mag, .300 Weatherby Mag and .300 WSM, but almost nothing about the .308 Winchester. Not the biggest fan of recoil … And you’ll find the greatest adventure and hunting stories anywhere—the kinds of stories that inspire you get outside and explore the wild. If you want a magnum that functions in reasonably sized, sporter-weight rifles, yet hits more like rounds typically chambered for much larger, heavier, long-magnum rifles, the 338 Winchester Magnum is your huckleberry. Want long distance shooting classes? Get a rifle you’ll actually shoot. Any thoughts? Too much can go wrong and the recovery of an animal shot at 100 yards can already be complicated at times. 308 win or 300 win mag for elk hunting #12844190 05/06/18: Joined: Apr 2018. Here you’ll find a rich mix of in-depth hunting gear reviews, where we push the latest and greatest hunting rifles, hunting boots, compound bows, and more to the breaking point to find the best of the best. For most big timber hunting conditions where shooting is inside 200 yards, all will work fine. Member. 300 Mag. Deer, bear, moose, elk: they’ll all go down from a well placed 308 or 30-06. Energy: The 308 is great for bear, moose and elk, but only at reasonable distances, typically inside of 350 yards. 308 vs 300 win mag. (I go elk hunting every other year and want to be sure to take it with one shot) Also I'm up for any recommendations on brands to buy. and the .308 Win. It won't matter if you don't hit it right. But even under field conditions and with significantly less concentration (and pain) I can shoot the 270 pretty well. The only ones that have run far were single lung shots, or non-lung shots. I’m shooting the 180gr Federal Trophy bonded tip out of my Tikka Superlite 300win mag. I agree that a heart shot can allow an elk to run a good ways before crashing, but a double lung shot puts them down fast. I try to limit my .30-06 shots to 300+/- yards for elk. So, the .300 Win Mag is much more powerful, has a much flatter trajectory, and has significantly more recoil than the .308. If you are only going to be out to 300 yards I would go with the 180 accubond just cause it is a boat tail. I've used .308 for last 7 Elk, most in the 400-590 yd range. Stinks not having much brass to reload, but plenty of meat to process. mag, 7mm rem, 7mm remington, 30-06, 8×57, 8×57 is, 7x64, 9.3x62 Oddly enough, given expectations of the rabble, it was not the .338 Winchester necked down. mark. Northern California. 300 win mag or 30-06 for elk/deer hunting? 300 Win Mag.300 winchester mag cartridges were first produced in 1963. 308 or 300 win mag for elk, ... to security cover. OP. That 180-grain .300 load will have a muzzle velocity of 2960 fps, just cracking the 3,500 ft.-lb. In my opinion, the .308 is a capable deer and elk rifle out to about 300 yards. What Is The History of The 300 Winchester Magnum vs. 308 Winchester? Mag. The.300 Win. Jul 27, 2017 #3 M. MTBULLET Well-Known Member. The .280 AI can equal or close to the 7MM Mag performance, some might even exceed it. An elk is a damn big animal and most of the terrain in elk country, well, long or relatively long shots are common. … That’s almost 500 fps faster than the.308 Win., so you can quickly appreciate the difference between them. Whenever hunters gather around a campfire to discuss big-game cartridges, you’ll hear talk about the .270 Winchester versus the .30-06, some chatter about the 7mm Rem Mag, .300 Win Mag, .300 Weatherby Mag and .300 WSM, but almost nothing about the .308 Winchester. Posts: 171. Not the biggest fan of recoil but I can handle it the 300 win mag. class shines. What was the name of the Lone Ranger's nephew's horse? Mag. And the beloved .308 will be huffing and puffing at that range to the extent that premium bullets, Barnes solid or Nosler Partition, may not expand like we would like. .308 Winchester, .30-06 Springfield, or .300 Win Mag? 7mm Rem Mag. Shooting 168 grain bullets . GI5 Seriously, I think it depends a lot on the distance you're looking at. 300 Win Mag vs 30-06 Cartridge. The 180 grain load is an outstanding choice of .300 Win Mag ammo for elk, moose, or bear hunting while the the lighter 165 grain load is perfect for deer, pronghorn, and bear. Nov 4, 2020 #8 L. Lxhuntinpa Senior Member. Reproduction in whole or in part without permission is prohibited. Choosing between the .300 Win. The Energy Involved is Crucial. We examine the history of these cartridges and compare them side-by-side in several categories that are important to hunters and sport shooters. For more than 120 years, Field & Stream has been the soul of the Total Outdoorsman–, the sporting enthusiast who can do it all: hunt, fish, camp, survive and thrive in the woods and on the water. elk, or deer at sensible ranges. Here are two very good reasons why we feel comfortable sitting on the 7mm Rem Mag vs. 300 Win Mag accuracy fence… For the most part, big game is taken at fairly close range. Blessings, Dan _____ Keep the Son in your eyes Whelen is the way. We’ve got you covered—no matter what you think of the 6.5 CM, 4 Ways to Shoot Faster with Your Hunting Rifle. How much did you get? Shooting 168 grain bullets . At that time, 30-caliber bullets were inserted onto the cartridges. I already have a 270 but i am looking for something more powerful yet still small enough to not destroy a deer. In.270 mag and 30.06 or 300 Win mags I 've used.308 for 7. Or in part without permission is prohibited cracking the 3,500 ft.-lb reason it ’ s a definite to! 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